+-

Author Topic: +2 swingarm shock question  (Read 489 times)

Offline 92lt250wannabe

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Range Rover
  • *****
  • Posts: 347
  • Gender: Male
  • Location: Wisconsin
+2 swingarm shock question
« on: February 09, 2015, 07:36:18 am »
Would the stock lt250 rear shock be too soft for a +2 swingarm? If so would a stiffer spring solve the problem? Or would it have to be revalved.

Share on Facebook Share on Twitter


Offline LT500Kid

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Elite Member
  • **********
  • Posts: 1045
  • Location: Michigan
Re: +2 swingarm shock question
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2015, 10:05:43 am »
I have +4's on my hybrid and my zilla and it was fine. But I did fresh rebuilds on them before I installed

Offline Patman13mia

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Green Horn
  • ***
  • Posts: 81
Re: +2 swingarm shock question
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2015, 10:08:46 am »
I have a stock shock on a +3 swinger on my honda. I need to get this shock rebuilt but hen i first got the bike it rode really nice and the shock worked well on upto 15 ft jumps. Wasnt jumping much higher but it worked.

Offline 92lt250wannabe

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Range Rover
  • *****
  • Posts: 347
  • Gender: Male
  • Location: Wisconsin
Re: +2 swingarm shock question
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2015, 05:28:04 am »
Ok thanks guys. My shock has a fresh rebuild on it now, I had heard somewhere that the stock rear is too soft or something.

Offline PCS

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Forum Moderator
  • Pro Member
  • *********
  • Posts: 970
Re: +2 swingarm shock question
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2015, 12:22:12 am »
for optimal performance it would need to be built for a longer swinger but depending on how you ride and what terrain it might be fine. on my quad racer i ran a plus 4 with the stock rear shock and it worked fine. ride it and go from there.
1985 Yamaha Tri Z 250
2006 Suzuki LTR 450
2011 Suzuki Hayabusa

Offline 92lt250wannabe

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Range Rover
  • *****
  • Posts: 347
  • Gender: Male
  • Location: Wisconsin
Re: +2 swingarm shock question
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2015, 07:00:08 pm »
I do not have a +2 swingarm yet, I was kind of curious if my shock would be to soft before I do get a new swingarm. I could always go with stock length. I haven't had much luck finding any swingarms for sale so my hunt will continue. My friend and I are possibly going to make our own. He is a welder/fabricator for Siemens so his skills are pretty top notch for that sort of thing. Plus we have an aftermarket swinger on one of his lts but it's a _
-2 we would just have to extend it out 3 or 4 inches depending on what we are looking for in length.

I ride trails and fire roads/dirt roads for the most part.

Offline PCS

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Forum Moderator
  • Pro Member
  • *********
  • Posts: 970
Re: +2 swingarm shock question
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2015, 01:18:08 am »
in my experience, with any type of technical trail riding, a longer swinger is not that good of an idea bc it changes the weight bias to the front and turning radius is increased due to the longer wheel base. if you have your friend make you a plus 2 and you do not like it you can have him shorted it.
just curious why you want to add a longer swinger?
1985 Yamaha Tri Z 250
2006 Suzuki LTR 450
2011 Suzuki Hayabusa

Offline 92lt250wannabe

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Range Rover
  • *****
  • Posts: 347
  • Gender: Male
  • Location: Wisconsin
Re: +2 swingarm shock question
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2015, 05:32:54 am »
I always thought it was good for stability at speed and such. But I have never gave it that much thought. We will see what happens with the fab project. Thanks for your advice pcs

Offline Iceracer

  • CEO BRP
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Trail Blazer
  • ******
  • Posts: 772
  • BRaP Small block 302, Released and Running
Re: +2 swingarm shock question
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2015, 06:21:07 am »
Longer swingarm makes turning radius wider, helps hold front end down if it wheelie happy. It has little effect for speed stability other than making them feel lethargic when going fast. If you pushed the spindles forward an inch with a-arms it will reduce the nervous feeling when going fast and not hurt your turn radius as much. If your in the woods Stock is best. Sand +1 front and or +2 rear. As PCS said can always shorten, I don't reccomend lengthening swkngarms in any case especiall if you like to jump.

Offline 92lt250wannabe

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Range Rover
  • *****
  • Posts: 347
  • Gender: Male
  • Location: Wisconsin
Re: +2 swingarm shock question
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2015, 08:44:36 pm »
Ok thanks for your input. I am still in the rebuild process and just had the pivot bearings and axle bearings replaced along with all the cushion bushings/bearings. So I think I will just run this stock swingarm for this next season and keep my eyes open for a standard length aftermarket awingarm.

So now that I have some good info on length and how it would effect things. What is the Benefit of having a no link swingarm? I am not positive but aren't most aftermarket swingarms for the 91-92 LT basically a no link. They do not use the cushion lever do they? From what I noticed and can see from some pictures the rear shock bolts right up to the swingarm correct. Is this beneficial in any way? Less moving parts to wear out (bearings and such) is what I can come up with.

Offline LT250RWV

  • 1991 Lt250r
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Elite Member
  • **********
  • Posts: 1350
  • Gender: Male
  • Location: West Virginia
Re: +2 swingarm shock question
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2015, 10:12:38 pm »
They use cushion lever
91 Lt250r Bartlett port and head mod v force 2 Hinson Clutch Basket Cool Head Scp Pipe and silencer ,KN air filter ,EBC clutch, Ohlins  Triple rate Shocks Redone by PEP Shocks,Stock Rear Shock Redone By Pep Shock,  DG nerf Bars , Lonestar axle 2+2,Lonestar Swingarm ,Douglas Red Label rims.

Offline 92lt250wannabe

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Range Rover
  • *****
  • Posts: 347
  • Gender: Male
  • Location: Wisconsin
Re: +2 swingarm shock question
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2015, 09:08:54 pm »
Hey guys I have a want ad for a swingarm. Don't know if anyone has seen it. I have money ready and want an aftermarket swinger for my 92. Don't care what make, it can be chipped up and dirty I don't care. Just not **** or stripped bolts anywhere. If anyone has leads please let me know

Offline Ceaserthethird

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Newbie
  • **
  • Posts: 4
Re: +2 swingarm shock question
« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2015, 11:43:36 pm »
Who still makes extended swingarms ?

Offline LT500Kid

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Elite Member
  • **********
  • Posts: 1045
  • Location: Michigan
Re: +2 swingarm shock question
« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2015, 03:59:15 am »
Metal tech, slc, performance prototypes are a few

 

+- Suzuki Quadracer HQ Store Zone

http://www.suzukiquadracerhq.com/index.php?action=store