I didnt want to post anything until I had parts in hand and had at least the frame cut but......


So,, I've got this 88 LT250R rolling chassis i had bought.. I've also got a nice 87+ bottom end with a fresh crank and fresh trans bearings........ but the 88 frame was cut and redone to accept the 85/86 engine.  Well, i would have to cut this frame anyway to put the spare motor i got in it. And while I'm at it I figured I'll go ahead and replace the complete cradle, all new tubing from the lower mount forward and up the downtube,,, and do a Tecate-3 front clip while I'm at it.



My plan is to have the 86 ATC250R rake angle with an 85 Tecate-3 front end because theres not enough room on the frame to mount side saddle style radiators.
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So thats it. I let the secret out. A few people already know about it and may mess with me for telling already (lol).

I cant wait to get this thing built. I literally have everything for the Suzuki half of this build except for a top end. I already need to get one for my 87 so i will buy 2 when i can.

Alright, lets all hope this goes well!!

Ok so apparently, thanks to a fella on another site, needing to know the Honda rake is unimportant because the trail is what's more important. I was planning to match the front geometry of the 86 Honda for this one but I guess that plan is changed now.

Nice. That measurement will be easier to take. Now if someone can take if off an atc250r while with some weight on it? Please! It is just a simple little measurement.http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicycle_and_motorcycle_geometry

Chuckie. I have been wanting to do this for a while just havent gotten to it.  Loose the whole box on the back tube its sheet metal and not very stiff. Also the two tubes that come forward there of no value at all.
Here's the questions
What fuel tank you gona use trying for Suzuki theme?  Older RM ?  Or just steal a early black Tecate tank, Honda R?
Radiator style. Early Tecate easy or  dual rads? Its all going to dictate how you position the triple tree and head set.

The trick lower engine setup would be to bend a single  tube with the pipe loop in it andtie it into the single drop that's there now.

Just a couple Ideas I had. A possibility for fuel tank is also a early yz 250 83 -87 era if you like square and 88 ish to keep the body style.

Looks good for the gen 1 .... lol.   Can yo do it with a machine with plastic..... n tires.

Chuckie. I have been wanting to do this for a while just havent gotten to it.  Loose the whole box on the back tube its sheet metal and not very stiff. Also the two tubes that come forward there of no value at all.
Here's the questions
What fuel tank you gona use trying for Suzuki theme?  Older RM ?  Or just steal a early black Tecate tank, Honda R?
Radiator style. Early Tecate easy or  dual rads? Its all going to dictate how you position the triple tree and head set.

The trick lower engine setup would be to bend a single  tube with the pipe loop in it andtie it into the single drop that's there now.

Just a couple Ideas I had. A possibility for fuel tank is also a early yz 250 83 -87 era if you like square and 88 ish to keep the body style.

Tank: I've got 2 spare LT tanks so I was gunna throw one of those on it. May not look the greatest but hey, I've already got it.

Radiator: Going with the first gen Tecate front end just for that reason. There's not going to be enough room on the frame to put side mount rads on it I believe

Neck/2 tubes: Thanks!! I didn't know if it was actual solid plate or what. I'll replace it with some good solid plate and remove those angled tubes

Down tube/cradle: Exactly what I was thinking. Just cut the down tube off about 3 inches down from the back bone, then the 2 bottom tubes about 2 inches before the bottom mounts, build a completely new cradle that would sleeve over those nubs and weld in so it would be extra strong. That's why I need a picture of the front of an 86 R frame because I believe it's done how I want to do this one. Or maybe my tri-z frame is the same... Hmmm... Anyway.

But yea, I can't find anyone local to me that is competent/I trust enough to do the finish welding on this. I will be able to at least tack everything in place but I don't trust my little $150 flux core machine to weld all this together to ride on lol. So I'll have to find someone to finish weld it all for me.

Also, Mr. Barlett, may be getting with you on a head for my 87, and a jug for this one. Then I can have the proper cut head for the 87 and a head for this motor as well as a jug for it.

Kyle: Thanks for using my 87 for that second picture! I be danged if it don't actually look fit together!!! Lol

We are all just crazy enough that we may actually make this work. And I can NOT wait to get it done 


The Tecate even uses a cantilever style rear suspension that has a really crappy rear shock too!!

I see that I've traveled to the less frequented weird part of sqhq...

Hey now, it's not very often that I try and make a serious thread. Why would I expect it to stay perfectly on topic? Lol.

How about instead of welding a front clip on, you leave it without a front suspension and make a segway instead?
You can ride a wheelie, right????

Been doing a lot of reading about trail and rake and everything else like that so I'm a bit more knowledged on the front end now and semi-confident in my ability to build a trike that handles at least half-assed decent even.

Got someone who's hooking me up with the neck off an 86/87 T3. Now I just need the 84/85 front end. Think I found on on the bay for $140 but no axle, no hub, no rad. So I've got more yet to get.

May even have someone that will buy the front end off the quad. So that'll help fund it some. Not much, maybe enough to cover shipping on something. But any $$ is good $$

Doing homework!! LOL

High quality, homie!!!! Yea the yellow one came out pretty slick actually.

I forgot that the stock tank mounts are in the front of the frame!! LOL So I gotta make some tank mounting tabs and hope the trees don't smash into it.